I'm not being ridiculous.

[his response is immediate, and it's firm. it's the sort of response stahn can't and won't accept—and that's because his perspective about this is incredibly different than judas'.]

You fought by their side until the end. You helped them to fix to fix the world. You prevented time itself from being changed in more than one place. And even before that you fought with us... you'd even gone against orders to try destroy the Eye of God with us.

[and...] How many times have you saved my life now, Emilio? It... it feels like a lot.

[regardless of where judas settles his gaze, stahn is the one who straightens in his seat, expression firm as he continues.]

Maybe not everything you did was heroic. Maybe history doesn't remember you the way I do... But the one thing I know is that you've done more good for everyone in this world than you have to harm it. You've done taken the steps you needed to in order to make up for the things you regretted...

So many things you've done, Emilio... they're heroic. So no matter what... to me... You're still a hero.

[as someone who is considered one of history's greatest heroes, he's pretty sure he can decide this for himself.]